Funny how Avi Loeb is pushing back against the scientific establishment on Oumuamua, yet he is the lead debunker of the Ukrainian astronomers on the stuff flying over Kyiv. Shows how there are a number of interpretations out there on exactly what we are seeing in the skies. No clear cut lines between us and them, believers and non-believers. Science is not conclusive.
High Strangeness
A podcast that delves deeply into the bizarre nature of the phenomenon. Based on a 2003 article by Vallee and Davis. Very good and worth listening